Now just the thoughts of me and not my dog until I can persuade Husband we should get another.
Friday, January 31, 2020
I remain a European
Tonight at 11.00 pm Britain leaves the EU. I am so sad that it has come to this. I really thought sense would prevail. But Britain is still part of the continent of Europe - until some idiot decides we should leave that too - so I am proud to say I remain a European.
I concur with your sadness. Even though I may not fully realize the pain an EU favoring Britain fully feels... from my perspective here in the US.... I see so many similar, chaotic, and discouraging similarities between what is happening in both our nations.... that I can say I share in your sorrow.
As commented by others, I have been in a state of disbelief since the referendum and can share your sorrow. I must say, though, that before UK joined the EU (1950s and 1960s), I got the impression that few British agreed that England was part of the European continent. Geological history had nothing to do with that perceived sentiment, of course.
We have to agree trade deals now with Europe, the U.S. and other parts of the world, which is going to be difficult and take up a lot of time and energy. It's like throwing in a job before having a new one to go to: unnecessarily stressful. It's all very well people saying we should have confidence in ourselves, but can we? I hope the negotiators and politicians know what they're doing and that we don't get turned over.
Whether we voted In or Out the thing we should all remember is that this is a democratic country. Whether I voted In or Out didn't matter once the result was known, the majority voted Out and that is the correct way to go forward to uphold that democracy. Whether I voted In or Out the bad losers amongst us have been the ones trying to bring this country to it's knees, to divide the citizens of this once proud country, to cause unrest. Still trying to cause unrest. The vote was Out, however that made us feel we should get over it and come together instead of stirring up more unrest and hatred. The lows to which some people are prepared to sink to cause unrest have been unbelievable in this, our wonderful country. Just because the vote didn't go their way. Get over it and get over yourselves and do some good instead of continually whingeing, if you've got time on your hands to whinge you've time to do something for a worthy cause, there are many charities out there who would appreciate it. And before someone asks - yes I do work for several charities in my spare time.
Ouch. Your response feels quite mean spirited to me, and reminds me of similar responses of rather confrontational sorts in my country who sport MAGA hats and basically tell everyone within earshot..... “If you don’t like it, leave!”
Mr Johnson may say Brexit is done, but the fact is there are still numerous trade deals to negotiate and that could take years. And there will no doubt be as many disputes over the trade deals as there were over Brexit itself. Also, although the media keep saying there are 11 months to complete the EU trade deal, actually there are only 7. Talks will start on March 2 and have to be complete by October to allow for ratification by the EU27. So the chances of getting the deal finished in time seem even less.
It's a very sad time indeed. I always felt like a European, but now my destiny is in the hands of Little Englanders who imagine we can return to some imaginary golden age.
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And what is it I heard that there can still be Europeans moving freely to the UK? What's with that?
Liz:
I concur with your sadness. Even though I may not fully realize the pain an EU favoring Britain fully feels... from my perspective here in the US.... I see so many similar, chaotic, and discouraging similarities between what is happening in both our nations.... that I can say I share in your sorrow.
PipeTobacco
Good luck, one and all!
I'm still in a state of disbelief!
Common sense, I think, is in short supply everywhere, here in the US as well. Take care.
As commented by others, I have been in a state of disbelief since the referendum and can share your sorrow. I must say, though, that before UK joined the EU (1950s and 1960s), I got the impression that few British agreed that England was part of the European continent. Geological history had nothing to do with that perceived sentiment, of course.
We have to agree trade deals now with Europe, the U.S. and other parts of the world, which is going to be difficult and take up a lot of time and energy. It's like throwing in a job before having a new one to go to: unnecessarily stressful. It's all very well people saying we should have confidence in ourselves, but can we? I hope the negotiators and politicians know what they're doing and that we don't get turned over.
Leslie, I think that is until the end of the year. the government has until then to make deals and complete negotiations.
As you say, shock, sorrow and anxiety for the future, are all part of the deal.
Whether we voted In or Out the thing we should all remember is that this is a democratic country. Whether I voted In or Out didn't matter once the result was known, the majority voted Out and that is the correct way to go forward to uphold that democracy.
Whether I voted In or Out the bad losers amongst us have been the ones trying to bring this country to it's knees, to divide the citizens of this once proud country, to cause unrest. Still trying to cause unrest. The vote was Out, however that made us feel we should get over it and come together instead of stirring up more unrest and hatred. The lows to which some people are prepared to sink to cause unrest have been unbelievable in this, our wonderful country. Just because the vote didn't go their way.
Get over it and get over yourselves and do some good instead of continually whingeing, if you've got time on your hands to whinge you've time to do something for a worthy cause, there are many charities out there who would appreciate it.
And before someone asks - yes I do work for several charities in my spare time.
You're entitled to your view, Rachel.
Ouch. Your response feels quite mean spirited to me, and reminds me of similar responses of rather confrontational sorts in my country who sport MAGA hats and basically tell everyone within earshot..... “If you don’t like it, leave!”
Rachel you sound such a delightful person, that attitude is precisely why there is still division!
Feeling your pain, friend.
Mr Johnson may say Brexit is done, but the fact is there are still numerous trade deals to negotiate and that could take years. And there will no doubt be as many disputes over the trade deals as there were over Brexit itself. Also, although the media keep saying there are 11 months to complete the EU trade deal, actually there are only 7. Talks will start on March 2 and have to be complete by October to allow for ratification by the EU27. So the chances of getting the deal finished in time seem even less.
It's a very sad time indeed. I always felt like a European, but now my destiny is in the hands of Little Englanders who imagine we can return to some imaginary golden age.
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