Wednesday, January 07, 2009

George's problem - or is it mine?

So, am I a bad mother? You see how I am taking lessons from the Jewish mother? It's all my fault.

The psychologist was lovely and very encouraging and helpful. All we have to do is remember and put into practice all that she said.

Such as throwing his dinner around the garden. Why? I hear you ask. (Do I?)

George is first generation family pet. His parents were both working dogs on a farm. We met them and they were lovely but they had plenty to keep them busy. George is showing signs of frustration. Dogs in the wild would spend something like 70% of their day looking for and devouring their food. George spends 2 minutes. So to make it more of a challenge and thus use his brain and physical energy, throw it around the garden. Similarly hide leftovers or little treats behind bushes; this makes the garden a more interesting place to be in and should make him less likely to roam. He doesn't try to escape if we're in the garden with him as he has things to do.

He's showing signs of anxiety in his reaction to us when we take him out. I haven't mentioned it but he's been quite bolshy and aggressive on occasion. The psychologist said this is a last resort; all his other methods of communication had been ignored. Signs of stress like licking his lips, yawning, panting, as well as more obvious body language like tail dropped and ears back.

So we have to learn to hear what he's saying to us before he gets to the aggression. But for the meantime try to avoid things that cause him stress until we can gradually help him to overcome his fear. The thing that most appears to cause him stress is going out for a walk from the front gate. So we have to go out the back gate. (Okay, now he's beginning to sound like a neurotic but there is logic honestly! The front gate is nearer to the road.)

And we have to begin the training again because we'd lapsed pretty badly on that.

Keeping him busy, distracting him, making what we want him to do seem interesting - all these type of things we have to work on.

We'd also been getting some things wrong. We'd been advised that if he growled we should pin him down. This is a no-no. She explained things about positive and negative reward and punishment but I got a bit confused. Fortunately Claire (the psychologist) is sending us a report and in the meantime has given me lots of standard advice sheets.

Also the dominance thing. Claire explained that he doesn't want to be dominant: he would rather have decisions made for him because he doesn't have the experience to judge and make good decisions. So he'd rather have that taken out of his hands but he has to learn that he is able to trust us.

Oh, so many things she said. Collars with a calming hormone. Feeding tubes that he has to work food out of. Giving him attention when we want to and not when he wants it. (That's very hard. I talk to him all the time - even though half the time, does he listen to his mother?) But she also said, 'he's lovely.'
xx

20 comments:

James Higham said...

There is some advice about firmness but I dare not give it.

CherryPie said...

It all sounds positive, so hopefully it will help :-)

Dragonstar said...

This all sounds very positive advice - not easy to implement, I'm sure, but well worth trying. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

This is more common than you think! Did she mention the NILIF protocol? Nothing In Life Is Free - they have to do something to earn everything (eg, sit before the lead goes on, 'wait' while you put dinner down), and it can be very useful to demonstrate your leadership skills to a dog, so they can relax, knowing you have it all under control!

Good luck with George! I'm sure he only needs a nudge in the right direction. ;)

mrsnesbitt said...

Wilma is the same, you gave some good advice here honeybunch!

Thanks
Dxx

Neva said...

I really think Clancy and George should meet...they sound very similar...although I haven't been to the dog psychologist....yet.....aggression...that is Clancy....and dominance...so easy for me to get that thing wrong...so I am the one that needs to be trained....

Rose said...

Do you watch "The Dog Whisperer," Liz? This reminds me of Cesar's constant advice that the human must be the "pack leader." You are NOT a bad mother; you're showing how much you care about him by taking the time to find out what he needs. Too many parents just throw up their hands. Sounds like a lot of work, but both you and George will be happier for it in the end.

Berni said...

I think boredom was probably our dog Annie's problem as she is a working dog. Luckily we found her a place to work and no longer have her. Hiding food under 3ft of snow would be a problem but I can see that it might work as it is more natural for them to forage after all.

jmb said...

Yes there are definite problems with an unemployed working dog.
My friend had a border collie which insisted on herding the Thursday walking group when we went out. She is too old now to accompany us so we can do as we please since we are too old to do what we are told, especially by a dog.

Lindsay said...

Have you tried George with a "Kong"? This is an odd shaped toy made of very hard rubber with a hole in it. Stick some food well down into the hole - dogs play for hours. Rescue Dog had never played before he came to us. His Kong became his favourite friend and after a few days we did not put any food into it and he still loved it almost as much as his teddies!

DeeJay said...

Oh WOW this sounds like a tough one for some time to come. I thought bringing up children was bad enough and they managed to throw their own food around Good Luck

Liz Hinds said...

Thanks all for your support.

James, what advice is that?

I think it will, cherrypie.

It's persevering on our part that will be the issue, dragonstar.

Yes, jay, she talked about making him 'say please' by sitting or doing something else. Yes, it is just a nudge i'm sure.

Thanks, denise.

Neva, that's more or less what i said to Claire, that I'm the one who needs to learn.

I've seen Cesar a few times and have read his book, rose.

I can imagine us, vic grace, gradually making him work harder and harder for his meals - till he has to complete a cryptic crossword puzzle before breakfast!

It does make sense, jmb. And now I'm thinking about other things he does and seeing them in a different light.

A Kong! Yes, lindsay, that's what she called it. The thing to stuff food into. I misheard her.

George is very adept at cleaning up food though, deejay!

Welshcakes Limoncello said...

Ah, poor George. I'm sure all will be well for he is loved so much. I once had a dog who behaved like that - worse, really - and in the end, I gave him a "Kalms" tablet a day [with the vet's approval] and it worked!

Welshcakes Limoncello said...

Ah, poor George. I'm sure all will be well for he is loved so much. I once had a dog who behaved like that - worse, really - and in the end, I gave him a "Kalms" tablet a day [with the vet's approval] and it worked!

Welshcakes Limoncello said...

PS: Liz, have you been in touch with eurodog about this?

XXYXX said...

Interestingly, this post makes pretty good sense if you substitute "dog" or, say, "husband" ... just a thought.

As for fault, as with all relationships, they are co-created. But did George love you enough to take YOU to a therapist? No, he was too obsessed snuffling about for Scooby Snacks or whatever. So give yourself credit!

Anonymous said...

Liz you probably know this already. Dogs are pack animals, so there are happy when they know where they are in the pack. We used to a have a male ridgeback, we had to ignore him and only fuss him when we wanted to, things like feeding him after us (pack order).. we bought him a large rubber toy which you put treats in and that kept him busy. And training, we went to training classes every week. Things will improve with George because you are getting help.

Gattina said...

You will manage it, dogs and cats are like children they have to learn and we as "parents" too. From what I read on your blog I am already in love with him, lol !

Liz Hinds said...

Welshcakes, yes, I know we'll get him sorted in the end. I might have to take Kalms though!

You're right, bobo: I shall point that out to him.

Hippy mama, it's the presevering with training and being consistent that we struggle with.


Gattina, that's the trouble: he is so cute and lovable!

Mauigirl said...

I hope George's issues work out. I sympathize with you as we are not very good about training our dog. I watch The Dog Whisperer and realize we do all the wrong things which is why Diva runs our household and acts like, well, a Diva.

Keep us posted on the advice you are getting because I'm sure we could use it too!